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1. Yari NK 8.19.08 / 10am

   Yes, I watched the movie. It tells us the worst and the most notorious genocide in the century. The Tutsis who are raised by the Belgians during the colonial period are considered more intelligent, more decent and deserve more status than their counterparts, the Hutus, even though people can’t tell a Tutsi from a Hutu correctly from his physique alone. This golden status enjoyed by the Tutsis sparked long lasting hatred and envy amongst the Hutus.

   then it is like a volcano ready to erupt. When a political restlessness ( I forget what it is…. can you tell me what it is??) triggered the hatred into a physical violence, the tutsis outnumbered by the Hutus became bloody targets in the violence. The result is horrifying, millions of the tutsis were slaughtered, and the worst part of it is…. the western powers remained silent in this bloodiest ethnic cleansing…. They did not even try to stop the violence and the slaughtering, the western powers arrived in Rwanda only to evacuate their people out of the country…..

   Are the Africans and the blacks not worth saving?? What criteria that make a race worth saving or not?? I am as puzzled as you are, mbak Yoga….

   Yoga:

   Did you mean Rwandan Patriotic Front (RPF) the wing politic of Rwandan Patriotic Army (RPA), Interahamwe and Impuzamugambi?

   This is one of movies that made me horrible and unpleasant, particularly while Paul Rusesabagina said that they are not even Nigger (African-American), they are African, ouch! Something hurts me.

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2. fahrizalmochrin 8.20.08 / 1am

   that movie i was watch 1 years ago..that conflic about tuts and hutch , but i think have the movie same like that , back ground about genocide in there but i forget that title that movie..I think many place in the world have conflict interest like,Bosnia, Sudan,Afghanistan, Palestinian..i hope in Indonesia free from that..( but in think have case like that in kalimantan that conflict dayak and madura, in maluku or many place in this country, but government late to get action..because military support some of them to get profit or benefit) what ever peace for independent day Indonesia 63 years

   Yoga:
   Yes, Tutsis and Hutu and there are many others. That’s why I was thinking, does this intention — to kill innocents/massacre is part of human behavior’s defect or there’s something wrong in their DNA? umm…. I am too far I guess.

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3. Yari NK 8.20.08 / 6am

   I forget the main political plot behind this bloody violence. But I think you took it down correctly as the reply to my previous comment.

   And yes, you are right too…. what’s wrong being an African?? Or is it an implication that ones would have to be capable of defending themselves no matter how weak they are, they can’t depend on someone else when horror suddenly comes to eat them away….. They have to be strong…..

   Being an African might not be the problem, being weak and defenseless….. that might be the most obvious problem!

   Yoga:
   And why were they weak and defenseless?… long answers I guess.

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4. Donny Verdian 8.20.08 / 8am

   I’ve seen Hotel Rwanda, 2 years ago.
   It’s kinda good movie, i think.
   With the good scenes and the character from hmm.. ah i forgot, was really tough!

   Africa oh Africa..
   But i think He did not create us with our defects.
   It might because our environment and actually sosio-economic disaster that raisen defects from us.

   Yoga:
   Hi Mas DV, nice to see you here … He said that human is the most perfect creature of Him, could I say that:- human are created with a good behave and also contrary to it, human could be more cruel than beast–which is I called it as defect perfectly? It makes them perfect.

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5. Yari NK 8.21.08 / 6am

   I think strength is not built instantly. To make a substantial strength that can prevent attacks from other parties takes tedious processes. Human is gifted with both brawn and brain, both have to be used simultaneously so one can benefit from them maximally.

   That’s where strength came from, when brawn and brain are used to the limits. Unfortunately there are groups of people fail to use both properly to the full extent (especially the brain). And that’s where weaknesses and defencelessness start from…

   Yoga:
   Geographically Africa is very wide and wild, it makes sense if they develop their brawn well instead of brain.

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6. mathematicse 8.21.08 / 3pm

   Mmmm, I do not understand… (Poor I am….)

   I have never seen this movie (?)…

   Yoga:
   Please watch it while you have time.

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7. Yari NK 8.22.08 / 7am

   Geographically Africa is very wide and wild, it makes sense if they develop their brawn well instead of brain.

   Hmmm… that’s I don’t agree on. But okay, let’s say that your words are true. The next question is: Are they going to develop their brawn only through modern ages for good??? Or will they wait until someone else clear out their jungles for them to start growing a brain????

   Yoga:
   Speaking about Rwanda and its genocide, made me think about the past, and I imagined the situation of Africa then I jump again to this age, well absolutely they have to develop their brain for their good. But for now, what do you think? Do you think they start to develop their brain? Sure you knew it well, I remember you ever wrote about it. And my next question is: – do somebody interest to clear their mind? Not really sure, look how capitalists speak there.

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8. natazya 8.22.08 / 8am

   ah film ini… bercucuran air mata nontonnya…

   tan… dunno what’s exactly u’re dealing with rite now… but when i got lost *if u’re still* just gonna stop questioning and let it *whatever “it” is* lead me there… *wherever “there” is*

   tan tan tan kapan maen ke bandung?

   Yoga:
   Sometime I did it, and I felt… ouh I am pragmatic. It’s fine because I am not a pragmatic person all the time. It’s just a way to manage life to get its harmony. Don’t you remember a conductor of an orchestra? He/she should know well, how to direct the performance of each instrument to get a beautiful composition. Another analog is a golfer, you have to know the right club to get your goal and win. Pragmatic is just a club, just an instrument.

   To Bandung Naz?

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9. Yari NK 8.22.08 / 12pm

   That’s why I was saying that one has to be able to defend themselves, they have to be strong, no matter the strength comes from, whether it comes from the BRAWN or from the BRAIN, they have to be capable of doing it…. If they can only develop the brawn it’s okay, but…. is it enough to stop horror that comes to them??

   I’ve never blamed on something genetic, I’ve never blamed for what colour their skin is, but if they fail to maximise their efforts to develop powers for their own sake, well that is a very different story…..

   The logic is independent of course with the fact that the western powers failed to see humanity in this case, which is I admit it is very awful….

   Yoga:
   And what are we? onlooker or observer?

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10. rahkyt 8.26.08 / 10pm

    The logic is not independent. In fact, the arguments of Yari present us with a logical fallacy, i.e., the Present situation of Africans is something inherent, rather than something which has evolved over a long time period of genocidal warfare, forced migration and continued plundering of natural and human resources through monocropping, corporate/international dominance and economic/developmental misappropriation.

    Ever heard of Divide and Conquer? All colonized countries have experienced it, although few in as divisive way as the regions of the African continent. Look at Rwanda again. Try to interpret the conflict between Hutus and Tutsis through the lense of constant economic and political aggression, as carried out by the colonizing powers as well as the impact of racism and the imposition of Eurocentric norms upon ethnic african phenotypes.

    You might come to a different conclusion then. =)

    Yoga:
    Rahkyt, apologize for belated reply. I have the same opinion with Mr. Yari and he has explained it bellow.

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11. Yari NK 8.27.08 / 3am

    Yes, of course, like I implied in my first comment the false misconception between the Hutus and the Tutsis are created by the Belgians. And you (rahkyt), of course through the lens of past colonisation you are exactly right especially if you look at the Eurocentric points of view.

    But that’s not what I was trying to say, because what I implied in my previous comments are, try to look into yourselves for correction before you blame on somebody else. The Tutsis or even the Africans have to be able to defend themselves without too depending on someone else……. That’s what I’m trying to say…..

    Every region has its own inherent problems like in Asia, but some groups of people in a certain region manage to hatch out of the problems either partly or completely…..

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12. Yari NK 8.27.08 / 3am

    oops a bit mistaken above:

    It is written: “…especially if you look at the Eurocentric points of view.”

    It is supposed to be :”…especially if you look through the Eurocentric points of view.”

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13. Yari NK 8.27.08 / 5am

    @Yoga

    And what are we? onlooker or observer?

    Does it make any difference to what had happened?

    Yoga:
    So… let’s wrap this discussion.

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14. Yari NK 8.27.08 / 5am

    oops the strikeout is not supposed to be there, it is a quote instead…. lol…..

    Yoga:
    Ok

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16. natazya 8.30.08 / 3am

    harusnya ym an ajah nih si tante ma om yari…

    iyah iyah

    to bandung?

    when?

    

    Yoga:
    I have a dream, someday I’d like to visit Selasar Sunaryo. I just read, there will be some event in Selasar Sunaryo. So Bandung is …
    Sigh, I dunno yet Naz. I will go somewhere else this month.

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